Some corrections and additions to the Complete Peerage: Volume 12, part 2: Welles


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Volume 12, part 2, page 437:
ROBERT DE WELLE [died before Michaelmas 1206] ... farmed the Honor of Haughley, Suffolk, alias the Honor of the Constable, 1184-88.(e)
Note e:
Pipe Rolls, 30-34 Hen. II, passim. In 1180 Robert, s. of William, nepos of the Constable, is mentioned in Lincolnshire; and in the follg. year the same man was charged 25s. relief in that co. (Idem., 26 Hen. II, p. 54; 27 Hen. II, p. 56). Gilbert, Earl of Lincoln, Robert's uncle, had held the Honor of the Constable temp. Stephen (Pipe Roll, 15 Hen. II, p. 111; Round, Geoffrey de Mandeville, p. 327; Farrer, op. cit. [Early Yorkshire Charters], vol. ii, p. 433).

Peter Wells [Foundations, vol. 1, pp. 373, 374 (2005)] showed that the Robert de Welles who farmed the Honor of Haughley with William de Ashford was a different Robert de Welles, who was dead by 1212, and was the son of Gervase de Welles. The account of the appearances of Robert son of William in the Lincolnshire pipe rolls is slightly incorrect - in the same year (1180) that Robert son of William, nepos of the constable, appears, a Robert son of William paid the first of three instalments (1180-1182) of a relief of 50s. [Pipe Roll Society, vol. 29, p. 54; vol. 30, p. 56; vol. 31, p. 54].

[Item last updated: 21 February 2005.]

Volume 12, part 2, page 446:
She [Joan Willoughby, first wife of Richard de Welles, Lord Willoughby (he died 1469/70)] was living, 11 May 1461, but d. shortly before 13 Feb. 1461/2.(c)
Note c:
Cal. Patent Rolls, 1461-67, p. 34; Cal. Fine Rolls, vol. xx, p. 4; Ch. Inq. p.m., 1 Edw. IV, no. 33.

Joan died 2 November 1461 according to British Library Add. MS. 27,948, f. 1 [Catalogue of Additions ..., vol. 2 (1877)].

[This addition is noted in the copy of the Complete Peerage in the Manuscripts Reading Room of the British Library.
Item last updated: 21 February 2005.]